Ready for the call?
Cockpit will guide you through the 9-step flow.
Veteran = free flow. Warning badges show what's incomplete but cockpit lets you navigate anywhere. For experienced closers who handle ranting prospects often.
Before you click โ make sure:
- Quiet room. Headphones on. Hands free for typing.
- Recording is ON.
- Application + setter notes printed or open in another tab.
- Their website + LinkedIn pulled up.
- Released emotional baggage from previous call. Be tranquil.
Rapport
30 seconds. Sharp. Human. Not robotic.
Hey [PROSPECT]!
Hey โ it's [YOUR NAME]. What's up?
Awesome โ I was actually just [grabbed coffee / wrapped a meeting / between calls].
Been having a good week so far?
Great โ well, I know we got a limited amount of time here, so you ready to jump in? Got a clean sheet of paper, something to take notes with?
"Is now still a good time to connect?"
They've got pen + paper. Click Next.
Frame
Set expectations. YOU are the doctor. Stay in control.
slow, downwardSo I believe you had a word with [SETTER NAME] and they were kind enough to give me notes about you. What I'd like to do is give you a quick summary of what I understood so we're on the same page, and then chat ahead and come up with a pathway for you. Cool?
Gotcha โ so what I've found to work best on these calls is first diving deeper into the specifics of your business and marketing process, how that's working right now, and ultimately what you feel are the specific challenges keeping you from moving forward.
Now once we get some clarity there โ if we can help, then I'm more than happy to walk you through that or wherever you wanna go. And if not, we can figure out whatever else is best โ I might refer you out to someone we know, give you some homework to work on in the meantime, whatever you need.
Cool?
Quick question before we go further โ is there anybody else who needs to be on this call to make a decision on something like this?
Best handled NOW (info-gathering). For business partner โ flag the moment you hear "we." For spouse โ best handled when finance/vision comes up organically. Worst case: before transitioning out of info-gathering.
Got it โ quick clarifying question. Is this person a business partner (co-founder / runs the company with you) or a spouse (life partner)?
How does the leadership structure of your company work? Are you guys 50/50? What roles do you guys have โ who is responsible for what?
So earlier you said the biggest challenge is [challenge]. Who is responsible for that?
If it's NOT the person you're speaking with โ IMMEDIATELY reschedule with the right person.
Are you guys on the same page that this is the biggest challenge in your business? What does he/she think about it?
If they're NOT on the same page โ reschedule.
Does your partner know about us (the company)? Does your partner know you're on this call? (Optional) What would your partner think if they knew?
Would your partner be working with us on this project too? Or would it just be you?
Great segway into scheduling with the partner.
Do they trust you to make decisions in solving this problem?
What does your spouse think about this? Are they supportive of you trying to fix this?
Do they also know it's a problem? Are you guys on the same page?
Are they involved in your business? What do they do?
Do they know about us (the company)? Do they know you're on this call? What would they think if they knew?
Let's just pretend for a second you would move forward with something like thisโฆ would you need their permission to move forward?
"Depends on price" = they need to be on the call.
If the spouse who is NOT on the call isn't the "alpha" of the household โ may not make sense to get them on, even if the prospect says they have to "let them know" (common in B2B/business ROI offers). Conversely, if you DON'T have the head of household OR they're more even โ you reschedule (common in weight-loss offers).
Look โ so I get that and I agree, that's totally fine. The biggest thing to us is ALIGNMENT. Meaning, you two are both clear and on the same page about not just the problem but the solution to it.
What we want to avoid โ is you being 110% certain and on board, and your partner feeling less so. Because it ultimately lowers the chance of success when you hop in โ it creates FRICTION, which isn't good for our client success rate, but more importantly it's going to sabotage the result that you're after.
Soโฆ I have my calendar open now. When works this week to where we can all three get on a call, get clear about the problem in your business, what your goals are, and then if it's a fit see how you guys feel about the process?
"Great question โ I'll walk you through exactly how we work once I understand your situation better. Coming back toโฆ" Stay in doctor mode. Do NOT start pitching.
They agree to the frame. Click Next.
Challenge + Sorting Hat
Isolate #1 challenge in their words. Confirm B2B. Pass the baton to Step 4.
So with that said โ what would you say, right now, is your biggest challenge? Or at least what's not working at the level you truly feel like it could be or it should?
curiousSo you told [SETTER NAME] your primary challenge is [INSERT CHALLENGE]. Can you elaborate? What do you mean by that exactly?
Capture their words verbatim.
curiousHow long have you been doing this business? Full-time, or do you have anything else going on โ like a job or another business?
Don't try to bucket the problem yet. Step 4 will diagnose from data โ not from their words. Just confirm B2B and move on.
Challenge captured + B2B confirmed. Click Next โ Step 4 will diagnose.
Discovery + Embedded Doubt
curious What might make more sense is to begin with the end in mindโฆ so ultimately, what's the goal?
What's your specific monetary goal per month?
curious Why THAT number?
What's your long-term vision for this business?
warm, genuine Can I ask a personal question? My goal isn't only to build you a business that creates wealth โ but one that lets you live whatever lifestyle you want. What are the non-monetary goals? What does this business allow you to do?
warm When was the last time you took your family on a proper vacation โ the kind you actually dream about?
curious What does your dream lifestyle look like? Paint me the picture.
slow How far are you from that right now?
You should now have written down: GOAL + EXIT NUMBER + WHY + LIFESTYLE VISION. This is ammunition for pitch and close. Don't move on without it.
Desire captured. Move to Step 5 (Pain + Support).
How are you currently getting clients? What's your primary method?
So โ qualified leads last month, closing โ at โนโ avg ticket. What about the month before?
Are the qualified leads consistent month-to-month? Or do some months you get 5, some months 0?
What are the downsides of ONLY relying on referrals for your leads?
If your referral source dries up, or your network gets busy โ what's your Plan B?
Got it โ so that's exactly why you need a marketing system that gives you qualified, ready-to-buy leads without depending on anyone else. Right?
No system. No control. No predictability.
How many clients/projects came in through the platform last month?
So they keep โ, and only โ lands with you after their cut, taxes, and delivery costs. That's โนโ paid to the platform in 12 months. What are your thoughts on this number?
How much manual time and effort goes into bidding, proposals, undercutting competitors, just to win and keep this work? Is that sustainable long-term?
And the clients you got โ were they your dream clients willing to pay premium for your expertise? Or price-shoppers picking the cheapest option?
Whose brand is getting built here? Yours, or theirs? When the client raves about the work, who do they thank, who do they refer, and who owns that relationship long-term?
If the platform decides to suspend your account, change their algorithm, hike commission, or just stop sending work โ what happens to your business? How many months of runway do you have?
Got it โ so you need a system that brings YOU your own dream clients, paying YOU full ticket, building YOUR brand โ instead of being a behind-the-scenes vendor at the mercy of someone else's platform. Right?
Dependency. No control. Building someone else's brand.
So โ posts last month using AI tools โ got โ leads, โ qualified, โ closed at โนโ avg ticket. Right?
You're using AI to crank out content quickly โ that's smart. But here's the thing: you're getting leads ONLY because Instagram / YouTube / LinkedIn is choosing to push your posts. Right?
If Instagram or YouTube changes their algorithm tomorrow and your reach drops 80% โ what happens to your โ leads/month? How many months of revenue runway do you actually have?
And it's not "if" โ it's "when." Algorithms change every quarter. Reels rules change. Recommendation systems shift. You don't control any of it. Right?
And here's the harder part โ if AI made it cheap for YOU to produce content, it made it cheap for everyone in your space too. Your AI content has more competition every month. So even if the algorithm doesn't change, the noise gets louder. Right?
Got it โ so you need a marketing system YOU control. Where leads come in predictably regardless of what Instagram or YouTube decides this month. So you're not betting your business on someone else's algorithm. Right?
Algorithm controls them. AI commoditized their advantage. No predictable system they own.
So last month โ invested โนโ total. โ bought across levels โ โ at L1 (โนโ), โ at L2 (โนโ), โ at L3 (โนโ). Total revenue โนโ. ROAS โ. Right?
You're getting โ return. Decent. Why not just double your ad spend and run more workshops?
"No time / exhausted / can't take a break" โ TIME. "ROAS drops at scale / margins thin" โ FINANCE. "People only buy L1 / wrong audience" โ PROCESS. "Can't handle more students" โ TIME. "I tried, didn't scale" โ ask "what happened?" then route.
When you ask them how much they're earning and they don't have much margins left, OR when ROAS drops at scale.
You spent โนโ last month and made โนโ. ROAS at โ. The math is already tight. What's the biggest issue with that?
ROAS is at โ right now โ that's decent at this scale. But what happens to your ROI when you try to 2x or 3x the ad spend? Does it hold, or does it drop?
Is this funnel actually scalable to where you want to be? Or do you hit a ceiling somewhere โ audience runs out, costs go up, margins compress?
Between launches โ when most people are still at L1 and haven't upgraded yet โ how are you running the business and paying expenses?
"So the funnel is either capped at this scale, or breaks if pushed harder. Either way it's not getting you to the next level."
If they're working a lot of hours / can't take a break / business depends entirely on them.
How many webinars do you do every month?
How much of your time goes into that โ including L2 and L3 upsell webinars?
What about fulfilment Q&A calls for each level? Hackathon calls? How many people attend each call โ and considering you have 100+ live at once, are students actually getting full support?
So total โ what's the actual number of hours you're investing in your business each week?
"Considering 2-hour webinars ร N times = X hours just on webinars. Rest of your hours go into fulfilment Q&A, upsell webinars, hackathons, community, ads, and daily ops. That's a lot."
Honest question โ if you decide to go on a 2-week vacation, what happens to the business?
Do you want to be CHAINED to the business, or RUN the business?
What happens if Tim Cook stops doing the keynote tomorrow? Would people stop buying iPhones? Of course not. The business runs without him on the stage. That's what scale means.
Right now you're doing theater. Every night, you perform. No performance, no audience, no revenue. What if instead you filmed a movie? One performance. Plays in 500 screens. You're not in any of them. Would you rather perform every night to 50 โ or film once and have it play to 5,000 while you sleep?
Do you see any downside of continuing to use this model?
"The business doesn't make money. YOU make money. You stop, it stops."
If they say target audience is business owners / B2B / busy professionals / HNI clients who lack time.
What target market do you actually wish to attract?
Do you think the kind of high-ticket clients you want to attract would actually buy a high-ticket offer sitting on a webinar or 5-day workshop? Did YOU buy your car or house on a webinar?
Only run this if they're rationalizing the workshop model.
If somebody wants a Rolls Royce, they won't sit through an auto-rickshaw demo to decide. HNI buyers don't have that time โ and they don't make decisions sitting in a mass-market workshop. Right?
"The current model is designed for volume. The high-ticket market needs a different approach. Two different games."
Got it โ so you need a system that brings ready-to-buy clients at high-ticket price, without you running yourself into the ground every workshop cycle. Right?
So โ pieces of content last month. How much manual time and effort of yours/your team's went into ideating, scripting, shooting, editing, posting, and engaging on those? Is that sustainable long-term?
You said โ leads came in from those โ posts โ but only โ were actually qualified. That's โ โ meaning the rest were freebie-seekers who consumed your free stuff for months without ever being ready to buy. Right?
And of those โ qualified โ how many had been following you for weeks or months before they finally booked? Lots of nurturing before they paid?
And the moment you stop posting for a week or two โ what happens to leads? Do they keep flowing, or do they dry up?
What are the downsides of ONLY relying on content to bring in clients?
Got it โ so you need a system that brings premium-ready, qualified leads predictably, without you on the content treadmill every day, without depending on the algorithm deciding whether you eat that month. Right?
Algorithm-dependent. Stops working when posting stops. No predictability.
So โ outreach messages last month. How much manual time and effort of yours/your team's went into all of that โ sourcing, drafting, sending, following up? Is this sustainable long-term?
Out of those โ messages, only โ turned into qualified replies โ that's โ return on the effort. Of those, you took โ calls and closed โ. Right?
And the leads who DID reply โ were they warm and ready to buy? Or did you have to do a lot of convincing to even get them on a call?
What are the downsides of ONLY relying on this method?
Got it โ so you need a system that gives you qualified leads at premium tickets, without manually chasing people every day. Right?
You stop, leads stop. Pure manual labour. Doesn't scale.
So โ messages sent automatically last month. Out of those, only โ qualified replies โ that's โ. โ closed at โนโ. Right?
So you've automated the process โ that's smart. But why do you think you're still only getting โ qualified replies out of โ? Why aren't more people responding?
Only run this if they're rationalizing or not seeing the problem.
Look โ AI and automation is great for volume. But people still need a personalized touch to become a high-ticket client. I mean, when was the last time you saw a manual outreach message from Mercedes before you decided to buy the latest S-Class? Premium clients don't get won by automated DMs. They get won by attraction. Make sense?
Got it โ so you need a marketing system that ATTRACTS qualified, high-ticket clients to YOU, instead of you needing to chase them with automated messages. Right?
Automation gets reach. Doesn't get high-ticket. Need attraction marketing.
How many client projects came in through the parent agency last month?
So they keep โ, and only โ lands with you. That's โนโ paid to them in 12 months. Your reaction?
How much manual time goes into servicing the parent agency's demands โ chasing approvals, revisions, multi-layered communication, scope changes? Is that sustainable?
Are these your dream clients โ or whoever the parent agency assigned you?
Whose brand is getting built here? Yours, or theirs? When the work succeeds, who does the END client thank, refer, remember?
If the parent agency drops you tomorrow โ do you even have direct contact with the end clients? What's your runway?
Got it โ so you need a system that brings YOU your own clients, paying YOU full ticket, building YOUR brand directly โ instead of being a hidden vendor behind someone else's logo. Right?
Hidden vendor. No client relationship. No brand equity.
So last month โ โนโ spent. Got โ leads, only โ were qualified โ that's โ. โ closed at โนโ. ROAS โ. Right?
If you had to take a guess โ why do you think we're only getting โ qualified out of โ?
How are you nurturing leads between when they opt in and when they hop on a call with you? Are you running a VSL, a qualification webinar, or a pre-sold sequence โ or are they coming in cold straight to your calendar?
That's exactly why qualified rate is at โ. Without a VSL or pre-sold funnel, leads show up cold โ half don't even know what you do. The right system pre-sells them BEFORE they get on a call so they show up ready to buy. Make sense?
How much time are you spending on these unqualified calls each week? And honestly โ is that worth it to you?
So do you have a nurturing process or a marketing funnel to generate qualified leads โ a webinar, a video, something that gives you qualified and nurtured appointments, kind of like how you came on this call today?
And going one level deeper โ who are you targeting in your marketing right now? Who's your ideal client?
Could it be that the targeting is too broad โ or pointing at the wrong audience entirely โ and that's why qualified rate is sitting at โ?
Have you worked with a team that uses advanced research tools โ Google Trends, audience insights, competitor analysis, AI โ to identify the EXACT target audience? Or is defining your niche an area you might need help with?
And in your marketing โ how do you currently differentiate yourself? What's the one thing that makes you stand out?
I have no doubt about your quality. Just curious โ do you know anyone in your space who would say in their marketing "we are the second-best"? Nobody, right? So could it be that โ because we don't have a strong marketing differentiator โ that's also why we're unable to attract clients who don't already know us?
Got it โ so you need a system that brings BETTER QUALITY leads with stronger returns, by targeting the EXACT people who can pay you AND nurturing them with a pre-sold funnel before they ever speak to a closer. Right?
Wrong people coming in. No way to filter before the call. No nurture system to warm them up.
What's stopping you from attracting clients who pay what you are worth?
How do you currently try to differentiate yourself in your marketing?
I have no doubt about your quality. Just curious โ do you know anyone in your space who would say in their marketing "we are the second-best, second-best client results"? Nobody, right? So do you feel there is a high possibility that โ because we don't have a strong marketing differentiator โ that's also why we are unable to attract clients who don't already know us?
Are you open towards creating a much better offer and positioning?
Nothing makes a stranger choose them.
Pricing is NEVER its own doubt. Pricing problem = wrong audience (Niche) OR weak articulation (USP). Probe one of those next.
Are you happy with what you're charging at โนโ, given the quality and outcomes you provide?
Could it be you're picking low-paying clients because of a limitation โ no marketing system means no abundance of leads to choose from?
Pricing pain comes from weak positioning + no abundance. Solve those, ticket goes up.
Who, according to you, is your ideal target audience?
Have you worked with a team who's used advanced research tools โ Google Trends, audience insights, competitor analysis, AI โ to identify the EXACT target audience you should go after to attract high-ticket clients qualified to work with you? Or is defining your niche an area you need help with?
Without a tight niche, marketing talks to everyone, resonates with no one.
Just to clarify โ you get enough leads, they're qualified, you just aren't able to convert. Right? Last month โ โ calls, โ closes at โนโ each. That's โ close rate.
So your closing rate is โ. Industry standard for healthy frameworks is 20-25%. Are you satisfied with that?
What's the biggest objection you get?
How do you handle it? How strong do you feel that approach is?
Do you know how to spot and prevent objections from coming up BEFORE you reveal the price?
If there was a process where through ONLY questions, people self-arrive at a buying decision โ without you following memorized scripts and handling objections at the end โ would that be something you want help with?
Each lost call equals โนโ. โ lost last month โ that's โนโ/month, โนโ/year on the table. How does that feel?
Sales process gut-driven. Can't articulate why losses happen.
Where does your time go? Roughly how much into fulfilment and ops vs growing the business โ marketing, sales?
So โ of your time goes into delivery. Revenue is โนโ with โ clients. Your price per client is โนโ. What's stopping you from attracting clients who pay MORE so you work less and earn more?
Are you open to exploring that?
If you got sick for 2 weeks โ what happens to your clients?
"Business stops when you stop. You ARE the product."
So you take about โ sales calls/week. At your conversion of โ ร your price of โนโ, that's max โนโ/month. That's your hard ceiling. Forever โ unless you delegate sales. Is that okay?
If you could do fewer calls but convert at a higher price โ would that help?
If you got sick for a week โ what happens to revenue?
Ever tried putting someone else on calls? What happened?
Never documented their sales process. Sells on gut. Can't teach gut.
Walk me through yesterday. What did your day actually look like?
Is this the business you imagined when you started? How is this impacting you outside of work?
Business stops when they stop. They ARE the system AND the product.
Deep Pain + Cost + Desire
- Pain lives in their CURRENT VEHICLE (job / other business), NOT the online dream
- You already have desire from Step 4. Don't re-ask the goal/lifestyle.
- After every number, recap: "Got it, so [their words]"
- Don't start coaching or teaching once you find the problem
- Support is woven into pain, NOT a separate section
curious What do you do for work full-time? What's your primary income?
Do you like it?
empathetic What's the worst part about that?
How did that make you feel?
How long have you been doing it? And how long have you been thinking about starting this business?
slow, personal After all that timeโฆ what was the final straw? What made you say โ this has GOT to become a priority now?
slow, challenging After doing that for [X] years and it's going wellโฆ Why all of a sudden start this? Why not just double down on what's already working?
Their answer IS the pain AND the "why now". Common: overshadowed, limited ceiling, bored, want autonomy. Follow the thread.
Pick money, time, or respect โ wherever you sense most emotion. Support questions flow naturally at the END of whichever pain you explore.
How much are you currently making?
For how long have you been earning that?
honest Are you SATISFIED with thatโฆ or is that dissatisfaction the reason you're on this call?
What about earning only that much bothers you most?
Is this impacting your personal life? Mental health?
Don't make it a separate section.
warm Are you married? Do you have a family? How are you managing with all this going on?
Does your family know about this? Are they supportive of you starting this business?
Do they know you're on this call?
If spouse needs to be on call to decide โ continue but DO NOT reveal price. Get them on follow-up.
How many hours a day do you work? What about commuting?
When do you get time to work on your business?
Is this impacting your personal life?
"Are you getting enough time with your family? What do they think about you doing this?"
What do you think about your boss? Work environment?
How long have you been dealing with this?
Is this affecting other areas of your life?
"What does your family think about your situation? Are they pushing you to make a change?"
downward So solving this and making this business work has to be the topmost priority for you right now, right?
These prospects are CONFIDENT. Traditional job pain won't work. Pain is the CLOCK: savings burning, no consistent income yet, time running out. You already have lifestyle vision from Step 4.
curious Walk me through that. What were you doing before and what prompted the shift?
curious You had something stable. Why leave it? Why not just double down on that?
curious How are you funding yourself right now? Savings? Other income?
concerned How long can you sustain without consistent income from this business?
What's the backup plan if this doesn't produce revenue in the next 3-6 months?
warm How does your family feel about the transition so far?
concerned, slow You've made the leap. But the business isn't producing consistent income yet. According to Warren Buffett โ while it's good to look at optimistic scenarios, it's also effective to look at the negatives so we can hedge our risk. What happens if 6 months from now nothing has changed?
slow What would it feel like to have to go back?
downward Making this work has to be a top priority now, right?
Pain captured + priority confirmed. Skip Step 6 (handled here). Click forward to Step 7 (Solution Belief + Doubt).
Make the problem REAL and URGENT. THEY say the painful things, not you.
Always probe money first. Most prospects have money pain. After they answer the first 3-4 questions, set the "Which pain landed?" dropdown below โ appropriate follow-up questions will appear.
Personally โ are you satisfied with what you're making at โนโ profit, taking home โนโ/hr after the hours you're putting in?
Personally โ are you satisfied with what you actually paid yourself last month, just โนโ? You're putting in โ hours a day โ that's โ hours a month โ and the real take-home is โนโ/hr. Are you genuinely okay with that?
"Why do you say that?" โ often reveals what they're rationalizing.
What bothers you most about [their biggest problem]?
What's the worst part about that?
You're putting in โ hours a day and taking home โนโ/hour. That's less than what most freelancers charge per hour. Are you okay continuing at this rate?
Is that sustainable for the next 6 months? 12 months?
How is this impacting your business day-to-day?
And what about your personal life? Has this affected things outside of work?
How long has this been going on? Have you ever calculated what that's actually cost you โ not just revenue, but opportunities, time, energy?
What's your plan if nothing changes in the next 6 months?
So solving this has to be the topmost priority right now, right?
Set the dropdown to lock pain type. If money landed โ continue to Desire. Otherwise, follow-up questions for the right pain type will appear automatically.
concerned, slow โ NOT positive affirmationEven if you go from where you are now to double the revenue, but you're still working โ hours a day โ would you actually consider that as a win?
concernedHow long have you been working those hours? Is that sustainable?
When's the last time you took a full day off without thinking about work?
concernedHow is this impacting your business day to day?
concerned, slowAnd what about your personal life? Has this affected things outside of work?
How long has this been going on? Have you calculated how much that's cost you?
What's your plan if nothing changes in the next 6 months?
downwardSo solving this has to be the topmost priority right now, right?
So let's talk about where you actually want to be. What's your goal in the next 3-6 months?
Why that number specifically?
How would achieving that impact your personal life?
How does it make you feel when clients haggle with you, ask for discounts, or compare you to cheaper options despite the value you offer?
How does it make you feel when [their biggest problem] โ and you know you're capable of so much more?
What does it do to your confidence when this happens repeatedly?
How long has this been going on? What's it cost you โ not just in money but in how you see yourself?
What's your plan if nothing changes in the next 6 months?
So solving this has to be the topmost priority right now, right?
Pain didn't land via Money/Time. Switch to goal first, then reverse-engineer pain from the goal.
curiousMoney-wise you're doing alright, time-wise you're managing โ I'm genuinely happy for you. So what's the goal here? What are you really wanting to achieve?
Why is that so important to you? What does that do for you?
What's the feeling you're chasing when you say you want to [their vision]?
concernedIf you don't start generating income from this soon, what will that stop you from doing specifically?
slow, concernedIf you're not contributing to enough people's growth, how does that make you feel about yourself as a [their profession]?
How many people's lives would possibly not transform if you're still stuck figuring this out or if it takes too much time?
slow, genuineSo safe to say, you've found your purpose. Can I ask you something as a friend? What would it cost you emotionally if you don't get to live your purpose fully, to the best of your capacity? What's your plan if nothing changes in the next 6 months?
downwardSo solving this has to be the topmost priority right now, right?
Don't force pain. Switch to goal โ use competition + opportunity cost + ceiling.
curiousYou're doing well โ money's good, time's good. Most people in your position would be very satisfied. What makes you NOT so satisfied?
What's the goal? What are you really wanting to build?
Walk me through what the business looks like when you've built it to [their role model / their vision] level. What does a day look like? Revenue? Team? What kind of clients?
For a personality like yours, what does growth actually feel like? What does it look like? What does it instigate in you?
In the time you're figuring this out, people with similar skills are also building their brands. Some get marketing systems in place first. What does that do to your ability to own [their segment] when somebody else has planted their flag?
You've had all this free bandwidth since you started. Systems are still not in place. What's been stopping you from figuring it all out on your own in that time?
slowWhat's the actual cost of spending the next 12 months figuring this out yourself instead of having it built in 90 days?
When you know your capabilities are here [high] but your results are here [low] โ how does that gap make you feel?
"I'm leaving a lot on the table" ยท "I should have done this sooner" ยท "I need to build this properly now"
downwardSo getting the right systems in place has to be a priority now, right?
Do NOT move to Step 6 until you hear genuine emotion (or for Ambition path, the gap verbalized). If still logical: "When was the last time you felt like all of this was actually worth it?"
Priority confirmed. Emotion (or gap) detected. Goal revenue captured. Click Next.
Support Belief โ Status Check
Click forward to Step 7.
Already captured everything in Step 2. This step is a STATUS CHECK only โ confirm the partner situation hasn't changed and lock the close-readiness gate.
Partner status confirmed and close-readiness clear. Click Next.
Solution Belief โ Kill Zombies + Inject Doubts
Past failures, bad experiences, DFY dependency, competitors, happy returners โ all die here.Two things in this step (for B2C): (1) Kill any zombies (past failures / fears from previous attempts). (2) Inject doubts the prospect needs to feel they CAN'T solve alone โ niche, USP, marketing, sales. This is where B2C doubt-injection lives (it's NOT in Step 4 where it would be for B2B).
curious, slowBefore I share anything about how we work โ have you reached out to anyone before to help solve this? Any courses, coaching, agencies, freelancers โ anything?
curiousReally? What made you finally decide to look for help now? Why not 6 months ago?
And what's different now?
slowGot it. So you've been trying to figure this out on your own for [TIME], and you've reached a point where you need someone who's done this before. Fair?
Generalization Challenge
Right Solution, Wrong Stage
"Pull up their Instagram. Follower count vs likes/comments on the last 10 posts."
"Facebook Ads Library โ how many ads running for their own business?"
"Is this the brand you envision for YOUR business?"
"Would you take personal training from someone not in shape? So why digital marketing from someone not running their own?"
"Their website โ actual documented case studies? Named clients, specific revenue, timelines, what was done?"
"How many clients specifically like you โ in India?"
"Total reviews. When was the LAST review posted? A company claiming those numbers should have a steady stream."
"How much has their media buyer (the one who'd coach you) spent on ads โ on their own business?"
"How many high-ticket sales calls has their lead coach personally done?"
"How long have they been doing this โ years in market?"
They'll realize their top picks fail their own criteria from 60 seconds ago.
Based on how you're currently operating โ are you truly making progress towards becoming an entrepreneur?
slow Do you have a process for consistent, reliable, qualified leadsโฆ or is the lack of that exactly why you're on this call?
Have you used research tools to identify the exact audience for your business? Or is that also something you need help with?
slow From a high-ticket client's perspective โ someone who's never heard of you โ what stands out about YOU vs the biggest brands in your space?
If we built a system to generate leads, do you have a way to close them at high-ticket? Or is that also an area you need help with?
slow, powerful So ultimately, if we could get your marketing, sales, and offer sortedโฆ could that allow you to leave your current situation and launch the kind of business you've been dreaming about โ [their lifestyle vision]?
curious If you had this system 3 years ago โ the kind that got you on this call โ how would things be different?
downward Installing a consistent system must be a top priority, correct?
Z8 reason captured + Z9 emotional WHY captured. Click Next.
Trust + Temperature Check
Do they trust UAbility? Are they committed to the PROCESS (separate from money)?
curiousLet's pretend you went ahead with something that fixes thisโฆ Most clients need about 14 hours a week. Is that something you'd commit to?
curiousBefore I share how we'd work together โ what do you know about us? How long have you been following us? Checked out our success page or training video?
You will need to do MORE screen-sharing during the pitch. Lean on case studies.
curiousI've got some feedback for youโฆ but before that, anything else we haven't covered that you feel I need to know?
Commitment confirmed. Awareness level set (drives close strategy). Click Next to pitch.
Pitch โ Personalized Delivery
Open the pitch
Based on what you've shared, you're facing the problem of , which is blocking you from hitting your goal of . Our done-with-you approach sounds like a strong fit. We've coached many โ including . Want me to walk you through how we'd apply the same framework to your situation?
Wait for "yes" โ ask them to take notes. "Sweet, you still have that pen and paper? In your notebook write down 1, 2, and 3 with space between them. Pillar 1: Offer Architecture. Pillar 2: Acquisition Funnel. Pillar 3: Sales Framework."
Niche ยท Offer ยท Pricing
Most get stuck because they diagnose the wrong disease and keep taking the wrong medicines โ no results follow. In your case, , you came to me with the perspective that you need . Right now you're at , working toward โ and it's making you feel . That's valid โ but the deeper problem I see has more to do with your offer and packaging. Let me explain.
And the thing that bothers you most about this โ you said โ is . Hold that. Because what I'm about to walk you through is exactly how we fix that.
When I asked about your ideal audience, you said . It's broad and generic โ โ too wide.
It's like trying to sell a Picasso painting in Dharavi. Can you do that? Why not? Picasso painting is beautiful. Why can't you sell it in a slum? Because they don't have the money. Even if I gave a crore to someone in Dharavi, they wouldn't buy it โ they don't understand its worth.
Similarly, , you see hundreds of ads every day but you watched our 35-min presentation and came on this call. Why? Because my marketing was speaking directly to you โ not to ecommerce or college kids โ YOU. My marketing works because it targets one single avatar with urgency and buying power. If I had said "anybody who needs high-ticket clients should get on this call," you probably wouldn't be here. Right?
Earlier on the call, you told me . The reason this is happening is because you're stuck charging per client, compared to the value you actually provide. You're a Ferrari race-car driver, but you're stuck driving a Tata Nano โ crazy talent, wrong vehicle.
When prices are this low, every problem you described โ โ gets worse, not better. Because at low ticket, you need volume. Volume kills margins, kills your time, kills your ability to hire. So we have to raise your prices. And to do that, we have to fix two things first: your niche and your USP. They're not deliverables โ they're the instruments that let us raise your price.
So the first thing we'll fix is your target market. We help you identify the right people who actually resonate with your offer โ using data, not guesses.
. When you solve a specific niche's core problem โ guess what โ you can charge a premium. That's how Amazon started (just books). That's how Facebook started (just Harvard students). Once you make your first โน1Cr, you expand.
When you solve a specific niche's core problem โ guess what โ you can charge a premium. Does that make sense?
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Having the right target market isn't enough. We need to craft an offer your market finds extremely hard to say no to. Remember when I asked about your USP and you said ? Those are great โ but customers only see them AFTER they buy. If I search " near me" on Google right now, you'd be one of millions of results saying the same thing. Most won't book a call if we keep saying what everyone else is saying.
A great offer communicates 3 things in the first 10 seconds someone sees your marketing: WHY this is for them, WHY your offer is different, and WHY now is the right time. That's what we'll help you build โ an offer so strong that the right people can't ignore you and won't price-shop.
Imagine waking up to a red pimple on your forehead. You approach two doctors. The first says: "I think it's this or that, I'm not sure, take this medicine." The second says: "Hey , this pimple is called X. You must feel a burning sensation when sunlight hits your face โ apply this 3 times daily, you'll be fine. If it doesn't work, I'll refund 50% and work with you another week." Who would you pay? Doctor 2, right? Why? Because he's a specialist with a confident diagnosis and a no-brainer offer. We're not saying we'll literally do that refund in your business โ but that's the level of clarity and confidence your offer needs to signal to your market. That's what we'll help you craft.
Show 1-2 wins of similar founders who fixed niche + offer like you'd be doing โ anchor the prospect with real before/after results.
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When I asked about your ticket, you said . At this price, you're selling gold at charcoal price โ crazy value, but the amount you're charging isn't enough. You're a Ferrari race-car driver stuck driving a Tata Nano. Once we fix niche and USP, raising your price to becomes natural โ because you stop competing on price. You become the specialist.
So once niche and USP are dialled in, raising your price to becomes natural โ and the symptoms you described earlier start resolving on their own. Less volume needed. Better margins. Time freed up.
And remember โ when I asked why [goal] matters to you, you said [their why]. The lifestyle you painted โ [lifestyle] โ that becomes math, not hope, once you stop competing on price. Pillar 1 is the first brick in that bridge.
In a nutshell, Pillar 1 fixes your target market and creates a solid offer so you can raise your price based on data โ not guesswork. We arrive at these things empirically, so you save time and money from random experiments.
Does that make sense? What're your thoughts on that?
A system you control
Now that foundations are sorted, time to inject the right leads. Remember you said you're getting clients via ?
Now that foundations are sorted in Pillar 1, the next problem โ and this is THE problem for you โ is you don't have a SYSTEM bringing qualified clients to you. Right now you're [job/savings dependent]. To live [their lifestyle], you need clients coming in predictably, not from luck or referrals or networking events. That's Pillar 2.
On top of that, it's inconsistent. Some months you get clients, some months you don't. No control. That's exactly what we'll solve by implementing our marketing system inside yours.
Just imagine how you came on this call: you saw our ad โ watched our video โ filled an application โ my setter called you โ and here you are. I did zero cold outreach. I didn't ask anyone to refer you. No team manually involved. The system brought you. Without me, Rohan, or Pratham doing anything manually.
We install the funnel into your CRM, our media buyer launches with you, you hit "go" together. We teach you how it works so you stay self-sufficient. Sounds good?
I know your business depends on webinars. It wouldn't be smart to stop them and switch to VSL right away โ they're your bread and butter. So first, we help you make the most money from existing webinars while creating a video funnel in parallel. Once VSL economics outperform webinars, transition is easy.
Quick honest question โ would you take fitness advice from a coach who isn't in shape? Or financial advice from an accountant whose own books are messy? Right. So if you're running marketing for clients, doesn't it make sense that your OWN marketing system has to be the strongest example of what you sell? Otherwise prospects question whether you can do it for them. Make sense?
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Pull up an actual VSL funnel from a client in a similar niche. Walk them through it. "This is what your funnel will look like in 90 days."
In Pillar 2, we install a marketing system you actually control โ predictable, consistent, qualified. Does that make sense?
If they raise a concern โ click for handlesConvert at premium prices
Now that we have foundations and acquisition dialled in โ the final problem is converting leads at a higher price without dealing with objections like "let me think" or "can you do something on price?" โ and feeling like you have to be high-pressure to close prospects who are otherwise your perfect client.
You're at % on warm referral traffic โ that's solid. But those people are already half-sold. They came pre-warmed. What happens when we send you cold traffic via Pillar 2 โ people who don't know you yet, don't trust you yet, and have never seen your work? That's where Pillar 3 becomes essential.
You're closing at % โ solid at . But Pillar 1 is raising your price to . What happens to your close rate when prices double or triple? Different objections show up โ trust, certainty, decision-maker, ROI math. Do you have a framework for those? That's what Pillar 3 builds.
You're already closing well at high-ticket on cold traffic โ rare. The question now isn't whether you can close. It's whether you can DOCUMENT how you do it. So a junior closer or AI tool can replicate it. Otherwise you're the bottleneck. That's how you scale beyond yourself.
In Pillar 3, we help you implement Dialogue Based Advisory Selling โ DBAS. You master skilled questions that work with human behaviour so prospects sell themselves on your offer. No feature-based PowerPoint. No high-pressure scripts. No god-awful closing techniques. You modify the process for each new prospect without losing control.
Quick math. Right now you're getting roughly leads/month, closing at โ so /month. Your conversion is at %.
When clients fully implement the DBAS framework, conversion rates typically land in the 16-25% range. If yours moved from % to 20% โ same leads, just a better process โ that's roughly /month extra. Without spending one more rupee on ads.
With a team that's coached 2,000+ founders through this โ even a halfway lift typically shows up. The rest depends on you executing.
When clients fully implement the DBAS framework, conversion rates typically land in the 16-25% range โ same leads, more revenue, no extra ad spend. That's the lever Pillar 3 unlocks.
With a team that's coached 2,000+ founders through this โ even a halfway lift typically shows up. The rest depends on you executing.
Don't fill the silence. They need to absorb the math themselves.
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In Pillar 3, we give you a sales framework that works with human behaviour, not against it โ at premium prices. Does that make sense?
If they raise a concern โ click for handles90 days ยท Done-with-you
Now let me show you how all of this is delivered. Super simple โ over 90 days we do the heavy tech lift WITH you AND teach you to run it yourself. By Day 90 you don't just have leads. You OWN the system. You can run it, fix it, scale it on your own.
Day 1 starts with a 1-on-1 onboarding call. No waiting for cohort start. Your AM maps your business, builds a custom 90-day pathway, and locks your first 21-day milestones. Across 90 days you get 8 one-on-one calls with them โ your project manager whose only job is making sure YOUR project ships and you stay on track even when you feel like slipping. Used properly, this alone makes founders move 3-4x faster.
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This is where most programs leave you stranded. We don't. Once your offer + scripts are validated, my technical team sets up your CRM and installs the full funnel โ branded to you. Pages, automations, calendar, tracking, all of it. The 90% of techy confusing work is handled. Then once your creatives are ready, our in-house media buyer launches the ad campaign WITH you. Live, on a call. You sit with them and press "go" together. You finish that call as someone who has launched a real paid acquisition system โ not someone still "learning ads."
For everything else, you have constant live support. Every weekday 5-7 PM our specialists run topic clinics โ offer, funnel, ads, sales, strategy. You pick the topic you're stuck on TODAY, get assigned to that specialist's room, only 5-6 people per room. You actually get heard. Plus 2x/week sales coaching, 1x/week sales mock calls, full reference library, and Saturday catch-ups if 5-7 doesn't work.
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And finally โ the part that makes people take this seriously. We run an execution sprint every month called the High Ticket Tournament. Goal: launch your funnel and start generating leads in as little as 21 days. Every cohort, ONE founder wins their entire fee back โ โน2.36L in cash. To win you do TWO things: full SOP execution (every assignment your AM gave you, no skips) AND highest clients sold in your cohort during the program window. Both. Win and you walk away with the entire system PLUS your fee back in your pocket. That's why people execute fast in this program.
Show 1-2 wins of clients in similar niche who went through this exact system + deliverables.
Just so you know what kind of team you're getting โ we've spent โน10 Cr+ on ads on high-ticket funnels, generated 3 Lakh+ leads, taken 10,000+ personally-done 1-on-1 sales calls, served 2,000+ clients, generated โน43 Cr+ additional client revenue in the last 2 years, with 1,589+ documented case studies in an average of 90 days. So when we coach you on each pillar, it's coming from real execution, not theory.
So overall, what you're getting is: 1-on-1 personal AM, done-with-you tech build (funnel + ads), daily live coaching & specialist clinics, and a chance to earn the course fee back. Does that make sense?
If they raise a concern โ click for handlesHow do you feel about the process?
Just curious โ in terms of the process specificallyโฆ how do you feel?
Earlier you told me getting there matters because โ . That's exactly why this works the way it does. Hold that.
Certain + positive language โ move on. Uncertain or low-energy โ use the alignment script below.
I hear you, and just to be totally clear โ what's really important to me is alignment. When you come in and work with us, we're rolling up our sleeves and getting in the trenches with you. Our team is ALL IN โ so it's important to us that you feel good about the process too. So just to be 100% clear โ on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is "this doesn't make sense for me" and 10 is "I'm completely aligned and excited" โ where do you fall exactly?
Move on to Onboarding.
"Gotcha, and I appreciate you being honest. Just curious โ what do you think is keeping you from being a 9 or 10?" Then handle the underlying objection (next round will route to objection handlers). Re-temp before moving on: "Are you sure that's the real reason?"
How we take you ahead
Any questions? Gotcha โ so which part of my process resonated with you the most?
So you feel good, no questionsโฆ so what's next in your mind? Where do you feel like you wanna go from here?
So the way we take you ahead is โ first, we'll walk you through the investment. Then we'll get you started with an onboarding call. On that onboarding, you'll get access to everything and a clear implementation pathway to begin executing.
The number
Before I share the investment โ remember what we talked about. You want to get to [goal] per month, because [their why]. The lifestyle you painted โ [lifestyle] โ that's what we're building toward together. This program is the bridge.
"Well the everyday price for this is โน3,36,000 that you can see on our website. But I have found that those who make decisions quickly always turn out to be the best clients and we do amazing work together โ so for that reason I have something called incentive-based pricing: if you make a decision on the call with me today, I knock โน1,00,000 off the investment and it's just โน2,36,000 (includes GST)."
โธ Then SHUT UP. First to speak loses. Wait 5+ seconds. Don't fill the silence.Whatever they say next routes you to the Objections layer (next stage). Common openers: "Let me think about it" โ O0 router ยท "Too expensive" โ O5 ยท "Need to talk to my partner" โ O6. The โน1L "decide today" discount is the urgency anchor โ guard it. If they push past objections, deploy ONE urgency lever post-objections (see Stage 9 footer).
5-step engine ยท Acknowledge โ Pace โ Clarify โ Handle โ Close
O0 ยท Think About It / Unclear Objection โ Router (start here)
๐ง Shared tool ยท If they're a 10 but still frozen
๐ง EMI Options
๐ง Concession = Decision NOW
๐ง Math Close (no income claims)
| Question | Quick answer |
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| Ad spend? | 20-25% of revenue goal. Start organic first. |
| Extra costs? | Funnel tool ~โน5K/month, domain โน100. Outbound works without funnel. |
| Who's my expert? | Dedicated account manager. Trained by Head of Product. |
| Pre-recorded or live? | Both. Guidance pre-recorded. Mentorship live daily. |
| Don't want to niche | Amazon: books. Facebook: Harvard. Dominate one, then expand. |
| Don't want videos | 20-min with checklists. So live calls = pure action. |
| Nobody pays high-ticket | Rohan: 6-figure agency from dorm. Now lakhs. We coach past this. |
| Don't want sales calls | One call = one webinar's revenue. Automate later. |
| Record course first? | Tesla pre-sold Cybertruck. Sell first. Build after. |
| I'm offline | Others do it online. At minimum: marketing + sales online. |
| Have a process | Great. We fill gaps, not replace. |
| Lost in group? | Small groups by size. Dedicated AM. Won't get lost. |
๐ง BAMFAM Sequence (after the call)
Call complete ยท Log everything
Capture the outcome + give us feedback on the cockpit. Your call state (zombies killed, gaps ticked, objections handled, pitch beats used) auto-bundles with this. Helps us improve the cockpit every week.
๐ COCKPIT FEEDBACK ยท Help us improve
2 minutes. Your inputs go straight to Rohan + Claude every week. We iterate based on what's actually breaking on real calls.
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